Why we didn’t like traveling in Xinjiang, China

We’re on a mission to share what travel is really like in the countries that we’re trippin’ through–and that includes sharing the bad along with the good. We admit it: we didn’t like traveling in Xinjiang, China. Here’s why.

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We left western China after only three weeks of travel.

The original plan was to travel around western and central China for two or three months. We’d enter from Pakistan, kick it in Xinjiang for a bit, get as close to Tibet as possible without having to get permits or be arrested, then exit through to Kyrgyzstan. We entered with high hopes, excited to explore a country that is so saturated with ancient history it’s fit to burst, that has a culture completely unlike any other in this world.

As the days progressed, we realized our expectations were too high. The China we imagined was far, far to the east, and Xinjiang province was more of a tense territory taken from other countries, rather than a true extension of China. Our days turned into drags, and we spent more time being frustrated, bored, and whinging about lost funds than actually enjoying ourselves.

Where’s the fun in that?

Why we didn't like traveling in Xinjiang: things are too expensive

Hiding out in a hostel because sights are beyond our budget.

There was no point in forcing ourselves to enjoy something we found mediocre when so many other places were calling our names. We decided to throw in the towel on China for now, and save it for another day when we have more time, less of a Central Asian agenda, and have acquired several million dollars via a lottery/inheritance from mysterious distant relatives/getting a sugar momma or daddy.

Until that magical moment when we become millionaires (sugar daddies, take note) we’ll stick to blogging. And what kind of bloggers would we be if we left you hanging with a vague “we peaced out because it sucked”?

Please.

We’re not the kind of travel bloggers that spout lies to convince you of our “perfect” lives—we’re here to keep it real. Here are a few more reasons we didn’t like traveling in Xinjiang, China. Keep in mind while reading that these views aren’t necessarily true for all of China–this is just us venting about Xinjiang itself.

Traveling to Xinjiang from Kyrgyzstan? Check out this post on crossing the border between Kyrgyzstan and China!

Id Kah Mosque in Kashgar, China

Despite being a functioning mosque, the Id Kah mosque in Kashgar entrance fee was equivalent to one night of sleeping.

Money in Xinjiang

The Chinese government loves money. They love it so much, they’ll charge you up the wazoo for everything and anything. And I mean everything.

Oh you want to see this purposeless little building? That’s 45 RMB ($6.50) please. An active mosque? 70 RMB ($10). This lovely mountain lake? That’ll be 200 RMB ($28.50).

We don’t mind spending a bit of money on sights, but when you have to empty your pockets for literally every single pointless pebble, we draw the line.

Add in the facts that a train to anywhere costs more than our daily budget, a bed in a dorm costs the same as a three-star hotel in Georgia, and active religious sights actually cost money unlike the million and one epic religious sights in Armenia, and you begin to see why western China wasn’t our flavor of the day.

 

Woman staring in a Kashgar market.

No love, only stares.

People in Xinjiang

We never felt particularly welcome when traveling in Xinjiang. People’s attitudes ranged from indifferent to downright hostile. The most common response we got when we asked people on the street a question was meiyo!–no, not possibleand a wave of the hand. Begone foreigner! You’re not wanted here. Just give us your money and leave.

Rumor has it that the local Uyghur population is usually very kind, but our experience was different. We never felt particularly welcome walking around Uyghur neighborhoods. In the true old town of Kashgar, no one would respond to our greetings.

People in Tuyoq Valley refused us entry into streets and shrines with cold stares. When hunting for lunch options in Kuche, people just glared at us as we moved towards places to sit, not turning around until we had grown uncomfortable and moved on.

It might be a side-effect of the suppression of Uyghur culture and people at the hands of the Chinese government – which has only gotten worse since we left – or perhaps we’re just scary lookin’ folks. Who knows? Everyone has their own experience, so yours may be different from ours.

 

The last true remnants of the Kashgar Old Town.

The last remnants of the old Old Town of Kashgar, the rest of which has been demolished in favor of a new, more polished “Old” Town.

The Disneyfication of tourism in Xinjiang

China seems hell-bent on destroying its sights. The process for developing tourist sights in the west seems to be:

  1. Realize something is worthy of tourist visits.
  2. Build a hideous 5-star hotel right next to it.
  3. Demolish any authentic buildings around it, and rebuild new ones made to look old.
  4. Construct a huge fence in a 10km radius around the sight.
  5. Set up a mandatory bus line from the fence to the entrance of the sight. Charge people 100RMB to ride the mandatory bus.
  6. Require tourists to have a guide. Make foreigners’ lives a bit worse by making the English-speaking guide 5 times as expensive.
  7. Install a million CCTV cameras to track tourists’ every movement.
Disney statues in China

And this being China, some literal Disneyfication as well.

In addition to the charmingly Chinese development process, there’s also the issue of the way the historical sights are presented. Most of Xinjiang, the “far west” of China, is basically land that China laid claim to in recent history. The museums and sights are filled with propaganda, re-crafting Uyghur history and culture to fit the Chinese government’s seemingly happier (and more Chinese) narrative. Xinjiang? Xinjiang is China and has always been China. Uyghurs? No, they are simply Chinese… with a slightly different ethnic background that we will choose to ignore.

Why we didn't like traveling in Xinjiang, China: the billion and one security checkpoints.

Local folks waiting to go to the three–yes, three–security checkpoints to enter the train station in Urumqi.

Chinese officials are mindless drones

What’s the most deadly article you’ve carried on you while traveling?

For us, it’s deodorant.

Forget the pocket knives, toxic bug spray, and baton-like selfie stick–the ever-so-clever Chinese security deduced that spray deodorant was our weapon of choice. Multiple cans of our deodorant were confiscated because ??? We might kill someone with freshness? Craft a bomb with our B.O.-begone? Do I look like fucking MacGyver to you?!

China doesn’t want citizens to be independent, self-thinking, or critical–it would be dangerous for the Party. Instead, it has created an army of mindless security drones who refuse to do anything except following paper orders to a T. And these totally arbitrary security restrictions drove us insane. Even more so than security in Pakistan (and that’s sayin’ something).

Paper says no drinks on the bus platform, so no drinks on the bus platform. The fact that it’s 40 degrees and you’re on the verge of dying from dehydration is irrelevant–the paper has spoken. The fact that there’s a vending machine for drinks on the platform is also irrelevant–you still cannot have drinks there.

Paper says no suspicious objects on the bus. You have shampoo in your backpack. Your shampoo is very suspicious, despite the fact that it is in a bag with conditioner, razors, soap, and other shower products. Suspicious objects are not allowed on the bus, so you are not allowed on the bus.

Paper says groups are not allowed to intermingle at the border. You must stand by your bus, and stop speaking to the person in line before you. Shouted conversations across the compound to said person are acceptable, however–the paper says nothing about that.

 

Before the rant ends: a caveat about traveling in Xinjiang

Traveling isn’t always going to be fun, and it’s easy to get sucked into a negative mindset. It’s important to remember that traveling is a privilege not granted to many, and we should be fortunate for what we do have, even if it is really fucking annoying frustrating at times.

So let’s end this on a positive note, shall we? Despite the frustrations and pains, there was one shining beacon of excellence throughout our time in Xinjiang: the food.

Street food in Kashgar, China

Yes.

Noodles in Kashgar, China

Oh yes.

A bowl of noodles in Urumqi, China

Yeah baby.

Egg dumplings in Xinjiang, China

The grand finale: EGGS. AND DUMPLINGS. ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

 

At least we can say we left China with contented bellies.

Heading to China soon. Check out this post on things to do in China. 

 

Travel doesn't always live up to your expectations, and that happened to us in Xinjiang, China. Here's why we didn't like traveling in Xinjiang, China.

 

Have you ever traveled to a country, only to leave disappointed? Which country? What happened?

 

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73 thoughts on “Why we didn’t like traveling in Xinjiang, China

    Sophie and Manolo says:

    So sorry to hear you didn’t like Western China. We traveled China for 2 months, and we can definitely agree on the high entry prices for everything a’d the disneyfication. It drove us crazy and we had a similar moment of hating everything about the country. We would go outside and sometimes literally snap at people (even when normally we are super friendly people). Chinese are also definitely no Iranians. The way of interacting with each other is definitely a bit rougher (horribly rude from a western point of view at times), but keeping in mind that it is their culture and for them it is normal definitely helped.
    However, the moment we arrived to Western Sichuan (the part that used to be Greater Tibet) everything changed!
    It’s a pity you didn’t make it all the way there. No permits required. People were very nice, especially when greeting them in Tibetan. Their culture is still very strong (think nomads, yak meat, very high mountains and tibetan buddhism). No chinification here yet, except for some museums depicting how tibetans loved to fight alongside the chinese in the 50s. And the best part? Not many Chinese tourists come here because it’s difficult to access (long and uncomfortable bus rides crossing 5000m mountains) and it’s cheap! We had some very nice double rooms for 10€.

    Alex says:

    That sounds amazing! I do want to return to China—it can’t ALL be Disneyfied, right?—and Western Sichuan sounds right up my alley. It’s refreshing to get some travel advice from a like minded traveler 🙂

    w.chang says:

    Appreciate your honesty, was romanitizing about Kashgar until I saw the picture you posted. Good blog! Wish there were less blogs that omit the less pleasant aspects but only accentuate the glamorous. Thanks!

    Alex says:

    Travel ain’t always glamorous, and it’s frustrating to only read about rainbows and sparkles and sunshine. I try to keep it real here!

    Winker says:

    Occupied Xinjiang province will yet be free. I noted a lot of propaganda about the China East of Xinjiang. To be sure, it is propaganda…and I have relatives in Mainland China.

    Winker says:

    Oh, I should note that your report was the fucking best…don’t let the assholes who put it down matter. Chinese propagandists are are all the fucking place. Xinjiang is run by primitive Chinese mafia style leaders. The lowest of the low.

    Justyouraverageperson says:

    Let me just say one thing: Uyghurs are very nice people. They are as jolly as their food is delicious. What you’re witnessing is the fear and suspicion that comes from being denied almost all human rights and being stripped of every single one of your freedoms. Right now times there are extreme, where you can’t even speak your own language without getting arrested. Sad to see your time wasn’t too amazing, but there are reasons why. Please don’t hate on the Uyghur people for trying to not get killed.

    Kaki says:

    Some more context on China’s police state policies in Xinjiang. https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018/05/31/china-has-turned-xinjiang-into-a-police-state-like-no-other. Makes me really sad ????

    CITL says:

    Sounds like you were just out of your element, Xinjiang is a rough & wild place quite unlike other travel locations. Unless you know Mandarin or Uyghur, it requires an English-speaking tour guide. And yes, people in Xinjiang do speak Mandarin. In 2016, Xinjiang was still a place where foreigners could travel. Beautiful natural landscape (mountains & desert). Amazing cultural locations (Turpan, Kashgar & Hotan). Xinjiang, especially Urumqi, does have some fake tourist locations, you’re right on there.

    As of now, beginning 2017-2018, it’s not advisable for any foreigner to visit Xinjiang. Actually the only people who should visit Xinjiang now are Han Chinese from Eastern China who’re part of an organized tour group. Otherwise, too risky. It’s descended into a complete police state where you tremble in fear of the police while walking down the street, fearful they will detain you as you’re on the way to board a train or airplane. It’s not a free place, very locked down, very controlling. You’d be shocked to go back now and see the difference only 2 years later and would find it’s even more difficult now than when you were there before.

    Janet says:

    As a Chinese, first of all, I’m sorry that the trip to xinjiang was not perfect。There are many complicated reasons for these problems。Welcome to other cities in China,You’ll have a great experience.If we have the opportunity to travel together, my husband and I will guide you.Welcome to China again!

    Ruo hang jiang says:

    Xin jiang hui muslim damn uneducated terrorists… so happy the day an ate this mixed breed savages into han culture… thwy r vile baggage on our xountry’.

    Lorenz says:

    Hi guys,
    I just came across your blog while looking for info on Xinjiang, where I am thinking of traveling next month. I have been living in China for almost 6 years and many of the things you mentioned in this article seem unfortunately normal and common to the whole country. I am talking in particular about the part on how the local governments “manage” or “develop” the tourism.
    I have to mention for the sake of truth that fortunately some of the most open and developed areas of the country have already realized a few years ago this problem in the last few years have been trying to shift to more reasonable standards.. the 2 problems (common to many other topics in this country) being that:
    1. before the change will invest the least developed areas of the country and less “important” levels of government it will take time and
    2. it will take a lot of effort and time to see a tangible change after 20 years or more of short-sighted “development”, and many things unfortunately will get lost/destroyed in the process 🙁 that’s sad, i know.
    Anyways… all this said, almost all the places in china i have been to were still worth it, nevertheless… and i hope xinjiang will be too.
    Very good to find blogs like yours with also cons and not only pros and many useful comments by your followers as well.
    Keep up the good work!
    Lorenz

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